Elderlies Gone Bad

“What’s your problem?”: Father of 2 Gunned down by Road Rage Driver

According to [attorney William] Moore, [Derek] Flemming and his wife [Amy] were eastbound on Grand River Avenue in their SUV about 3:35 p.m. Tuesday when they noticed a 2012 Dodge pickup “screaming down a side street” so fast that Amy Flemming believed it was going to hit their SUV, but instead cut them off as it turned onto Grand River.

Moore said Derek Flemming attempted to move to the right lane to allow the pickup to pass, but the other driver nearly struck their SUV.

Bezotte said the pickup driver was tailgating the Flemmings’ Escape until they reached National Street where the pickup driver passed the SUV.

Moore said Amy Flemming told police that the pickup driver cut to the left, getting in front of their SUV and he “slammed on the brakes.”

Witnesses indicated that the younger man appeared to be “upset” or “angry” as he approached the pickup, Bezotte said, but it is believed there was no physical contact between the men before the shooting.

“His wife was forced to witness this act from the front seat of her car,” Moore said.

Attorney: Man accused in Howell road rage shooting drove recklessly before attack. Detroit Free Press, 9/4/2014.

Livingston County Prosecutor William Vailliencourt expressed his condolences to the Flemming family during a 4 p.m. press conference today. He also said this case is not about a citizen’s right to possess guns.

“I fully support the right of individuals to keep and possess firearms, but it’s when they misuse those weapons that it becomes a problem,” he said.

Vailliencourt said he’s confident the suspect, Martin Edward Zale, wasn’t reacting in self-defense when he shot Derek Flemming once in the face as the 43-year-old father of two stood outside Zale’s pickup truck on Tuesday following a road rage incident. He said a jury will decide if there was a reasonable threat of imminent harm from Martin Edward Zale’s viewpoint.

Vailliencourt said you can’t shoot someone because you’re not happy with them.

Alleged shooter arraigned on open murder charge. Livingston Daily, 9/5/2014.

“I don’t want to die, please don’t kill me”: Grandmother Stabs 7-Year-Old Grandson to Death

Mason Rhinehart and his brother were playing video games in their Killearn Lakes Plantation home Tuesday morning when their grandmother, Martha White, interrupted to say she had a surprise for them.

White, 63, who had been babysitting the boys, then took 6-year-old Mason into the bathroom and locked the door behind her, a probable cause affidavit said. Mason’s brother, age 8, heard him start to cry from behind the door and say, “I don’t want to die, please don’t kill me.”

The boy said he tried to get in the bathroom, but could not. He then called his father and hid, court documents said.

Within five minutes, first responders were on the scene and found Mason lying on the bathroom floor with multiple stab wounds to the chest, said Lt. James McQuaig, LCSO spokesman. Leon County Emergency Medical Services rushed him to the hospital, but Mason did not survive.

…Mason’s brother said he saw White leave the home with a bottle of wine but not before telling him she “had a surprise for him too,” court documents said. McQuaig said Mason’s brother was not injured in the incident.

Deputies identified White as a suspect when they found her covered in blood at the dead end of Valley Creek Drive, about a half-mile away from the boys’ parents’ home in the 7700 block of Bass Ridge Trail. White’s clothing was covered with blood, court documents said. She also had a bottle of wine and a Xanax.

…It is still too early in the investigation to identify a motive for the stabbing, McQuaig said. However, White told deputies she was “fed up.”

8-year-old tried to save brother. Tallahassee Democrat, 8/7/2014.

Grandfather Shoots Son, Grandson Kills Grandfather

Around 7 p.m., deputies were called the mobile home for a reported domestic dispute.

They said a preliminary investigation shows 84-year-old Lloyd Woodlief argued with his 49-year-old son Lloyd Peyton Woodlief and shot him with a .22 caliber pistol.

Deputies say the grandfather was then shot by his 11-year-old grandson with a 12-gauge shotgun.

Lloyd Woodlief was pronounced dead at the scene. Lloyd Peyton Woodlief was being treated at Duke Medical Center.

GRANDFATHER DEAD AFTER VANCE COUNTY FAMILY FIGHT. ABC11.com, 7/8/2014.

84-Year Old Kills Son over Not Buying Cable, Tries to Stab Self to Death

The suspect had just gotten off the phone with his pastor when he shot his son, according to a criminal complaint.

Police said the pastor told them Pang Se Vang was upset that his son would not pay to install cable television in the home, the complaint said.

Chue Vang responded that his father had the option to move out. Chue Vang had bought the house with his sister, See Vang Yang, according to an affidavit filed in support of a search warrant.

Pang Se Vang locked himself in a bedroom and claimed to have knives with him, the search warrant affidavit said. Maplewood police officer Kao Xiong called the defendant on the phone and talked with him in Hmong, the suspect’s native language. Kao Xiong told him to come out with his hands up.

“The defendant replied that he could not because he had stabbed himself in the chest and was on the bed,” the complaint said. “He said that he stabbed himself because he wanted to die.”

He and the dead son had argued, he said, and he grabbed his hunting shotgun.

“He admitted that he loaded it, pointed it at his son and shot him,” the complaint said.

He didn’t want to settle the issue in court, he told the officer. “He would settle the dispute with his son when they reached the afterlife,” the complaint said.

After a two-hour standoff, Pang Se Vang complied with the officer’s request to hold his hands up near a window so that police could locate him in the house.

A Ramsey County SWAT team moved in and found Pang Se Vang on the bed, “covered in blood on his chest, stomach and neck.” A large knife lay about 6 inches away. He was taken by ambulance to Regions Hospital, where he was treated for the self-inflicted wounds to his neck and abdomen, and was formally arrested Tuesday.

Pang Se Vang’s wife…said Pang Se Vang had been talking on the phone in the bedroom that morning with their pastor. He then came to the kitchen to eat.

“(The victim) told his father that if he had any worries, he should talk to his sons about it,” the complaint said. Pang Se Vang replied, “I’m not talking with you kids,” according to his wife.

He went back to the bedroom, and Chue Vang followed him.

That’s when Pang Se Vang’s wife heard a gunshot and saw their son fall backwards into the hallway.

She asked him why he shot their son.

“He said, ‘If you are not afraid of dying, then come in and bother me. If you are afraid of dying then you better run away,’ ” the wife recalled.

Maplewood police Chief Paul Schnell said the family described Pang Se Vang as being “very militaristic, very patriarchal … (a) my-way-or-the-highway kind of orientation …”

A family member said he had been a member of the Laotian military.

It was not a self-defense case, Schnell said. “This is murder stemming from a dispute that really would not be of unusual significance in anybody’s life. … It’s tremendously hard to wrap your head around.”

Maplewood man, 84, killed son in cable TV dispute, charges say. TwinCities.com, 3/27/2014.

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